A little something to consider: as governor, George W. Bush was the last word in Texas' Death Industry. He signed the execution orders for more than 110 felons. Remember, he didn't say today that Scooter wasn't guilty, he said that Scooter's sentence was "excessive." Yet death wasn't "excessive" for 110 Texans. Kinda skin crawly, ain't it?
Always kinda figured the death penalty was no more excessive than than the murder the sentenced committed.
And as for Mr. Oral Sex in the Oval Office... his Presidential Pardons included... Conspiracy to corruptly solicit and accept money in return for influencing the official acts of a federal district court judge (Alcee L. Hastings), and to defraud the United States in connection with the performance of lawful government functions; corruptly influencing, obstructing, impeding and endeavoring to influence, obstruct and impede the due administration of justice, and aiding and abetting therein; traveling interstate with intent to commit bribery BORDERS, William Arthur, Jr. -
And these are just the CONVICTED drug dealers he pardoned...
WOOD, Mitchell Couey WILLIAMS, Kevin Arthur VAMVOUKLIS, Ignatious STEWART-ROLLINS, Marlena Francisca SANDS, Gregory Lee RUTHERFORD, Bettye June ROSS, Anna Louise ROGERS, Michael James RILEY, Richard Wilson, Jr. OGALDE, Miguelina OBERMEIER, Vernon Raymond MORGAN, Charles Wilfred, III LOPEZ, Hildebrando HUCKLEBERRY, Debi Rae HARMON, Jay Houston HAMNER, Robert Ivey FERNANDEZ, Marcos Arcenio CUNNINGHAM, Rickey Lee CHAMBERS, Donna Denise BURLESON, Delores Caroylene, aka Delores Cox Burleson BLAMPIED, David Roscoe BANE, Scott Lynn BAGLEY, Chris Harmon ALTIERE, Nicholas M
Oh, Michael, I get it: everything is still Bill Clinton's fault. Yawn. And in terms of what you assume about the death penalty, you may wish to check out the way Illinois and Florida (Jeb Bush, btw) reexamined the way capital punishment has been meted out in those states. I warn you, though, you won't find anything to blame Bill Clinton for. Bummer. Probably won't hold your attention too long then. You poor one-note guy.
I would like to say that I do not blame Bill Clinton for every evil in the world or even in our country. In the same area, the rest of you should not blame President Bush for ever wrong and evil in the world or even in this country.
I don't know that ANY United States President is 100% above reproach. There are a lot of them who did a lot of good while in office.
INTERESTING SIDE NOTE - WHILE IN OFFFICE THEY ARE CONSIDERED TO BE BOTH "SERVING" AND "IN POWER."
George Washington was honorable enough to know AND state publicly that no one should serve more than 2 terms. He knew something about leadership and the evil of control.
Abraham Lincoln certainly lead our country through a very traumatic time, as did John Kennedy, who managed to advance civil rights and science/technology during a time we were entering into another controversial military engagement.
No one will ever serve as the President of our country because they are a servant of the people above all else. To get there they have to advance through a system that requires money, and whether it is their own (like Ross Perot or Bloomberg in NY) or from donors/sponsors like political parties, companies or special interest groups, they will find themselves in the pocket of soemone with an agenda they expect patback for.
I believe both Bill Clinton and George W Bush made poor choices while in office. I believe when it comes to personal character, Bush is the superior individual which is probably why it upsets me to hear people refer to him in such negative ways, especially considering so many of the Bush-haters are Clinton-lovers.
Anyone heard of Neal Boortz? (Libertarian) he could be a fun alternative but he won't run!
I do not blame George W. Bush for everything that is wrong. Nor am I even especially outraged about the Libby pardon. On some level, I even appreciate it. I am, however, saddened that anyone would so cavalierly dismiss the execution of more than 110 souls by saying, "Always kinda figured the death penalty was no more excessive than than the murder the sentenced committed." With plea bargaining, and the over extension of public defenders, and the advent of DNA, and ... and ... and ... it's a very complicated issue. As one who faces jury duty in criminal court at the end of this month, it's something I take very seriously. I'd like to think other citizens do, too. Perhaps in this polarized society, that's too much to ask.
My wife served on jury duty just this week. As far as she could tell, she was dismissed from one potential trial by the defense attorny because she admitted to being a Christian. She was eventually seated on a jury for a trial that lasted less than an hour and a half. The defendant was accused of operating haevy equipment while under the influence of alcohol. His lawyer changed the plea from not guilty to guily after the defendent admitted to having two alcoholic beverages while at lunch that day. Duh.
I have never served on a jury. The only times I have received summons I had been excluded by the call-in process the night before the reporting date, though I would like to serve someday.
Aside from jury duty, let me ask this question. In a case where there is no doubt at all that a person is guilty of the crime of murder (say perhaps on top of DNA, 20 people witnessed it and affirmed the accused was the perpetrator), this is not someone who deserves to be allowed to roam free in general society. He has taken at least one life. Should we punish him by keeping him alive and sequestered from the general population at unknown continuous cost to the taxpayers to house, feed, clothe, and provide medical care for the rest of his life, or should he suffer a fate equal to that of his victim?
We already knew about his disrespect for the law and how he thinks he is God - or at least speaks for him, so this comes as little surprise - yet is none the less stomach-turning.
As Cervantes said, "Thou hast seen nothing yet." Wait till Dubya's last week in office and he starts in with the presidential pardons.
I don't give a flying fuck who sucks Bill Clintons dick. Never have never will. I do give a flying fuck about being screwed over by some coke headed ass clown who got to the oval office via a rigged court decision.
A little something to consider: as governor, George W. Bush was the last word in Texas' Death Industry. He signed the execution orders for more than 110 felons. Remember, he didn't say today that Scooter wasn't guilty, he said that Scooter's sentence was "excessive." Yet death wasn't "excessive" for 110 Texans. Kinda skin crawly, ain't it?
ReplyDeleteExcellent point gal. Mind if I quote you?
ReplyDeleteAlways kinda figured the death penalty was no more excessive than than the murder the sentenced committed.
ReplyDeleteAnd as for Mr. Oral Sex in the Oval Office... his Presidential Pardons included...
Conspiracy to corruptly solicit and accept money in return for influencing the official acts of a federal district court judge (Alcee L. Hastings), and to defraud the United States in connection with the performance of lawful government functions; corruptly influencing, obstructing, impeding and endeavoring to influence, obstruct and impede the due administration of justice, and aiding and abetting therein; traveling interstate with intent to commit bribery
BORDERS, William Arthur, Jr. -
And these are just the CONVICTED drug dealers he pardoned...
WOOD, Mitchell Couey
WILLIAMS, Kevin Arthur
VAMVOUKLIS, Ignatious
STEWART-ROLLINS, Marlena Francisca
SANDS, Gregory Lee
RUTHERFORD, Bettye June
ROSS, Anna Louise
ROGERS, Michael James
RILEY, Richard Wilson, Jr.
OGALDE, Miguelina
OBERMEIER, Vernon Raymond
MORGAN, Charles Wilfred, III
LOPEZ, Hildebrando
HUCKLEBERRY, Debi Rae
HARMON, Jay Houston
HAMNER, Robert Ivey
FERNANDEZ, Marcos Arcenio
CUNNINGHAM, Rickey Lee
CHAMBERS, Donna Denise
BURLESON, Delores Caroylene, aka Delores Cox Burleson
BLAMPIED, David Roscoe
BANE, Scott Lynn
BAGLEY, Chris Harmon
ALTIERE, Nicholas M
Oh I get it now. it's okay for Bush to pardon criminals b/c willy did it too AND got a blow job.
ReplyDeleteBush is owed a blow job. Any volunteers?
Lay off the koolaid, mikey old pal.
Oh, Michael, I get it: everything is still Bill Clinton's fault. Yawn. And in terms of what you assume about the death penalty, you may wish to check out the way Illinois and Florida (Jeb Bush, btw) reexamined the way capital punishment has been meted out in those states. I warn you, though, you won't find anything to blame Bill Clinton for. Bummer. Probably won't hold your attention too long then. You poor one-note guy.
ReplyDeleteI would like to say that I do not blame Bill Clinton for every evil in the world or even in our country. In the same area, the rest of you should not blame President Bush for ever wrong and evil in the world or even in this country.
ReplyDeleteI don't know that ANY United States President is 100% above reproach. There are a lot of them who did a lot of good while in office.
INTERESTING SIDE NOTE - WHILE IN OFFFICE THEY ARE CONSIDERED TO BE BOTH "SERVING" AND "IN POWER."
George Washington was honorable enough to know AND state publicly that no one should serve more than 2 terms. He knew something about leadership and the evil of control.
Abraham Lincoln certainly lead our country through a very traumatic time, as did John Kennedy, who managed to advance civil rights and science/technology during a time we were entering into another controversial military engagement.
No one will ever serve as the President of our country because they are a servant of the people above all else. To get there they have to advance through a system that requires money, and whether it is their own (like Ross Perot or Bloomberg in NY) or from donors/sponsors like political parties, companies or special interest groups, they will find themselves in the pocket of soemone with an agenda they expect patback for.
I believe both Bill Clinton and George W Bush made poor choices while in office. I believe when it comes to personal character, Bush is the superior individual which is probably why it upsets me to hear people refer to him in such negative ways, especially considering so many of the Bush-haters are Clinton-lovers.
Anyone heard of Neal Boortz? (Libertarian) he could be a fun alternative but he won't run!
Well, Mr. Duck, who knew there would be such interesting comments on this post.
ReplyDeleteI cannot bear to hear the news anymore regarding the State of Our Union. And, maybe that is why we are glued to news about Paris....
I do not blame George W. Bush for everything that is wrong. Nor am I even especially outraged about the Libby pardon. On some level, I even appreciate it. I am, however, saddened that anyone would so cavalierly dismiss the execution of more than 110 souls by saying, "Always kinda figured the death penalty was no more excessive than than the murder the sentenced committed." With plea bargaining, and the over extension of public defenders, and the advent of DNA, and ... and ... and ... it's a very complicated issue. As one who faces jury duty in criminal court at the end of this month, it's something I take very seriously. I'd like to think other citizens do, too. Perhaps in this polarized society, that's too much to ask.
ReplyDeleteMy wife served on jury duty just this week. As far as she could tell, she was dismissed from one potential trial by the defense attorny because she admitted to being a Christian. She was eventually seated on a jury for a trial that lasted less than an hour and a half. The defendant was accused of operating haevy equipment while under the influence of alcohol. His lawyer changed the plea from not guilty to guily after the defendent admitted to having two alcoholic beverages while at lunch that day. Duh.
ReplyDeleteI have never served on a jury. The only times I have received summons I had been excluded by the call-in process the night before the reporting date, though I would like to serve someday.
Aside from jury duty, let me ask this question. In a case where there is no doubt at all that a person is guilty of the crime of murder (say perhaps on top of DNA, 20 people witnessed it and affirmed the accused was the perpetrator), this is not someone who deserves to be allowed to roam free in general society. He has taken at least one life. Should we punish him by keeping him alive and sequestered from the general population at unknown continuous cost to the taxpayers to house, feed, clothe, and provide medical care for the rest of his life, or should he suffer a fate equal to that of his victim?
And we now start the death penalty debate.
We already knew about his disrespect for the law and how he thinks he is God - or at least speaks for him, so this comes as little surprise - yet is none the less stomach-turning.
ReplyDeleteAs Cervantes said, "Thou hast seen nothing yet."
Wait till Dubya's last week in office and he starts in with the presidential pardons.
Hoo-boy. Party time in D.C.
I don't give a flying fuck who sucks Bill Clintons dick. Never have never will. I do give a flying fuck about being screwed over by some coke headed ass clown who got to the oval office via a rigged court decision.
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